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 Post subject: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:37 pm 
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can you get rid of them? (assuming you want to)


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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:15 pm 
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What do you mean by "get rid of them" - do you mean can the admins stop them coming here?

And let's not assume ;). Are you saying you don't like them here? Are you asking for help with running your own forum or something?


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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:27 pm 
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not asking advice. sorry i wasn't more specific. yah they kind of bother me, don't they bother anyone else? they are ad bots from what i can tell.


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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:38 pm 
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There's one bot that's always here, the one called Google Adsense [Bot]. That one's here because we invited it, and it gives us the adverts on the left that generate income for BPDR. It reads each page and tries to generate adverts that are relevant.

Most of the others are search engine bots. They make BPDR appear in search engine results when people search for relevant things.

We could tell them not to come, but they're useful.


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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:45 pm 
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ohhh i see lol thank you for clearing that up


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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:12 am 
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What is a "bot"? I never heard that word before. Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:55 am 
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It's short for "robot", and here it refers to an automated program that reads websites.


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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:21 am 
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Thanks! :)

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:43 pm 
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There's one bot that's always here, the one called Google Adsense [Bot]. That one's here because we invited it, and it gives us the adverts on the left that generate income for BPDR. It reads each page and tries to generate adverts that are relevant.


Just curious; why would the 'who's online' feature show this bot as 'composing private message'? I have seen this more than once where the Adsense bot is listed in the 'composing' forum. I don't really care if a robot is looking around, but why the PM's or is that just computer glitch?

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:35 pm 
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There's one bot that's always here, the one called Google Adsense [Bot]. That one's here because we invited it, and it gives us the adverts on the left that generate income for BPDR. It reads each page and tries to generate adverts that are relevant.


Just curious; why would the 'who's online' feature show this bot as 'composing private message'? I have seen this more than once where the Adsense bot is listed in the 'composing' forum. I don't really care if a robot is looking around, but why the PM's or is that just computer glitch?


I'm confused. The only place I've ever seen anyone, bot or person, listed as in a particular forum is within the forum, and there is no "composing" forum. Either you're seeing something I don't or I'm not getting what you mean.

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:01 am 
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I'd also be interested to know where you're seeing that, since I've only seen it in the admin panel.

I can answer the question though. On each page there's a script which loads the adverts. The script also tells Google that someone is looking at that page URL which has an advert on it, and the Adsense Bot then comes and tries to analyse the page. In the case of 'composing private message', the bot will see a message saying it can't do that, but the board software still tells us that that's what it's doing.


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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:20 am 
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When one clicks on the "Who's Online" option to see where people are at the site (which forums, doing what things), it does show the bots doing things one wouldn't normally associate with an automated program, such as composing a private message. From what SG explained to me one time before, I believe it's a fluke of the software. The bot just isn't capable of actually composing a PM. Instead, if someone else (a real person) is composing a PM, the bot recognizes that a "compose PM" page is open but since the bot doesn't have an account or password to get to a PM box, it may try to access that "compose PM" page to archive basic information for the search engines. The instant you click the "Who's Online" link, it's basically showing you that a bot has tried (but failed, essentially) to access the "compose PM" page that someone else had open. It's not really composing a PM or accessing private areas.

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:43 am 
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Ah, okay, I never knew that was clickable. So now I follow the first part of what Harmonium said. Though no bots are currently composing private messages.

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:05 pm 
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Thanks for the explanations, StoneGlow and Ash. I figured something like that was going on, but I wasn't sure exactly how it worked and since the thread was already open......

Ellen, you mentioned that my post confused you then you said you followed the first part. Is there anything I still need to clarify for you?

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:14 pm 
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No, I'm just a community member. So no need for clarification for me. I don't understand the reference to the bot being listed in a "composing" forum, but there's no reason I have to.

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:27 pm 
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I try to treat everyone the same, CM or newbie or SCL. So, to me, you deserve an answer same as anyone.

The reference to the bot in the 'composing' forum:

When I go to the 'who's online' section of the main page, up pops a blue box with three parts. On left it has the header: User. The middle part heads: Last Updated. On the Right: Forum Location. It is in this Forum Location section under the user Adsense [bot], I would occasionally see it listed as being in the 'composing private messages' like a registered user or guest would be listed. Under this same column I also see 'viewing Season Passes' or 'posting in Deep Blue' kinda thing. I just thought it was strange that an advertising robot would be listed in the PM slot as I fail to see what kind of advertising they could gain from browsing that forum.

Does that make better sense?

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:35 pm 
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You're missing the point. I can't fix anything that might be wrong, nor do I have a question, nor do you seem to have a quetion I can help you with, so I don't need to know the details of what you are seeing. Really, I don't.

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:36 pm 
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I'd also be interested to know where you're seeing that, since I've only seen it in the admin panel.


I just saw this now, SG. Did my above response to Ellen clarify for you as well?

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:42 pm 
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Your right, Ellen, I did miss the point of what you were saying. I will try not to again. My mistake, I thought you were still asking a question although reading back, I don't see why I thought that. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: bots on the forum?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:40 pm 
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Yes, I see it now. I didn't realise the "who is online" text was a link. It seems it's only a link on the main forum index, so if I hovered over it in some other place I wouldn't have seen anything.


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